proxmark3 gerbers and bill of material

RadioWar · 2013-12-24 08:02:13

Ooops..........

UID Changeable Card have two version，15 RMB bertter than 9 RMB.
and the MIFARE CLASSIC is quality product not fake~

9 RMB UID Changable Card
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1.w4004-1228885373.18.I43L0k&id=36536142142

and the shipping fees is DHL 1kg 172RMB /UPS 1kg 162RMB

RadioWar · 2013-12-24 08:11:08

gaucho wrote:

Update: I'm going to buy antennas for myself. someone interested?
I will send money to china within few days.
If you want it, I can order more than one per kind.
I found them on the net, i have no guarantees about the product.
HF antenna - http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.35.kJk7ml&id=15837877685
big 13,56MHz antenna (HF) - http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.UNzQhm&scm=1007.10009.257.0&id=13888178247
I can't find cheap LF antenna. the producer of the first HF antenna produces even LF antenna but it is out of stock now.
EDIT: someone interested on these cards?: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.131.DwnnY0&id=21299156421
or these http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.TsvWl0&scm=1007.10009.257.0&id=21298456622

Anyway the first antenna have many problem,because the Customer feedback Product can not use and without commitment.......

gaucho · 2013-12-24 10:00:15

@benoit: I buy with agent.
You should add the shipment from seller to agent (consider taobao shipment price)
You should add about 17% for agent gain
You should add about 44% of the obtained value for the shipment to me (paypal fees included)
You should add the shipment from me to you. If you ordered a PM3 board, I suppose you don't have to add anything, otherwise add about 8€
You should add about 4% for the paypal fee of the total payment from you to me

In example: this card: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.131.DwnnY0&id=21299156421#
costs 15rmb, but the shipment is 22rmb, so the total for 3 cards shipped to agent is 67rmb
then add 17% = 78,39rmb
then add 44% = 112,8816rmb
then add 4% = 117,396864rmb
In this case, for you, you don't need to add shipment to you cause you still paid for it, then the total is 117,4rmb=19,4$=14,2€

It's incredible but it is cheaper my way than the radiowar direct way (note that the radiowar UPS shipment will be faster).

@radiowar: your antennas are better than home made antennas but they are more exensive. also note that I asked manufacturer to test antennas before the shipment to me, so if the voltage report is not satisfatory, i will not buy them. hey but you said that you were not selling proxmarks.. while it seems that you're the taobao seller!

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RadioWar · 2013-12-24 12:57:41

gaucho wrote:

@benoit: I buy with agent.
You should add the shipment from seller to agent (consider taobao shipment price)
You should add about 17% for agent gain
You should add about 44% of the obtained value for the shipment to me (paypal fees included)
You should add the shipment from me to you. If you ordered a PM3 board, I suppose you don't have to add anything, otherwise add about 8€
You should add about 4% for the paypal fee of the total payment from you to me
In example: this card: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.131.DwnnY0&id=21299156421#
costs 15rmb, but the shipment is 22rmb, so the total for 3 cards shipped to agent is 67rmb
then add 17% = 78,39rmb
then add 44% = 112,8816rmb
then add 4% = 117,396864rmb
In this case, for you, you don't need to add shipment to you cause you still paid for it, then the total is 117,4rmb=19,4$=14,2€
It's incredible but it is cheaper my way than the radiowar direct way (note that the radiowar UPS shipment will be faster).
@radiowar: your antennas are better than home made antennas but they are more exensive. also note that I asked manufacturer to test antennas before the shipment to me, so if the voltage report is not satisfatory, i will not buy them. hey but you said that you were not selling proxmarks.. while it seems that you're the taobao seller!

At first！in proxmark forum we dont sell anything to anybody! so we are not seller ,OK?
and i never said we not selling proxmark !

benoit37000 · 2013-12-24 14:13:19

Hi gaucho
thanks for the detailled answer
i send you the 15 € via paypal

RadioWar · 2013-12-24 15:35:01

benoit37000 wrote:

Hi gaucho
thanks for the detailled answer
i send you the 15 € via paypal

you can use http://www.dotdotbuy.com to buy it！or you can use credit card go to www.taobao.com to buy it~just yourself no agent~

gaucho · 2013-12-24 21:56:05

@radiowar: how does dotdotbuy works? they buy from taobao, they receive to their site, then they send the items to me? and their gain? which is the difference between dotdotbuy and an agent? Also some of the taobao items are not available on dotdotbuy. thank you.

EDIT:i found their percentage gain and shipment costs, and also their paypal exchange rate. I suppose this time I will stay with my agent. Anyway, thank you for the hint.

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gaucho · 2013-12-26 14:56:22

does someone needs hirose connectors to build antennas? I'm buing this one: item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=36760832122
datasheet here: http://www.hirose.co.jp/cataloge_hp/e20609504.pdf

vivat · 2014-01-02 15:31:11

Did our parcel passed the Italy customs? I can't track it online

gaucho · 2014-01-02 18:23:06

I understood that it is not a real tracked shipment. It is tracked until it starts from China.
then from china to my home you can't read updates.
As I previously told you, i suppose that it will not arrive before 6 January.

p.s.:the seller of magic mifare ultralight that you requested is never online. I can't get quotation from him. strange. may be he is closed for the new year holiday?

gaucho · 2014-01-04 19:36:29

i ordered, for error, more components than what i need. if interested contact me: 12 hirose connectors (to build antennas) and 11 cards ( http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.131.DwnnY0&id=21299156421# )

connector: 4€ each one
card: 5€ each one.

skappy · 2014-01-14 14:36:34

Hi Gaucho,
Thank you for your help ...
Do you still have the possibility to sell proxmark 3 device as mentionned in the post ? I've miss the opportunity but i'm very interested in buying such a a device.
I'm also interesred in cards and hirose connectors.
Thank you very much for your help
Have a nice day

gaucho · 2014-01-15 19:20:46

update:
-accessories (cards etc.)arrived to agent and agent sent them to me today.
-hirose connectors (ordered on mouser) arrived at my site.
-no news about the boards. I'm looking for information about how to track a chinese airmail shipment when it goes outside china.

Last edited by gaucho (2014-01-15 19:22:09)

gaucho · 2014-01-15 19:34:39

Hey i found how to track it with my country post office (online):
It is arrived to my country on 07/01/2014
It has been shipped to my city on 13/01/2014
Damn, what are they fu*cking doing with my package?

Neuer_User · 2014-01-15 20:09:01

Thanks for the update. Looking forward to getting the board and the cards.

gaucho · 2014-01-16 19:46:18

today i received a receipt from the postoffice, telling me to go to the post office to get something.
It could be a FINE...
..but it could also be our boards..
I will let you know tomorrow evening..

gaucho · 2014-01-17 20:34:51

false alarm, it was not our package

Neuer_User · 2014-01-17 21:28:02

:-(

vivat · 2014-01-18 05:55:34

Hey Gaucho
You should call your freecall number 803160 and ask for valid tracking number. See
http://forum.purseblog.com/ebay-forum/p … st20056325

gaucho · 2014-01-18 11:51:01

no, vivat, i used the same code supplied by the manufacturer, on my country post office website. it finds the shipment, and i read there that:
It is arrived to my country on 07/01/2014
It has been shipped to my city airport on 13/01/2014
It has been shipped to my city central post office on 17/01/2014
Today they are closed, I hope on monday it will arrive. i work during the day and i can't stay at home to receive the pack and i can't go to the central post office. I can just go to my district post office.
in your linked discussion CHLOEGLAMOUR wrote the link that i used to see it..

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vivat · 2014-01-20 11:07:36

Today is monday. Hope you will receive the parcel without problems. If it have passed the customs successfully, you don't need to pay extra fines or duties.

gaucho · 2014-01-20 19:40:52

after 8€ on the phone (cause that number is not free using the mobile phone) and a lot of anger,
the shipment today has been sent back to the manufacturer because the manufacturer wrote wrong destination address.
i opened a claim to try to correct the destination address but they told me that there is no way to do it.

ikarus · 2014-01-20 19:46:48

Just a scene playing in my mind:

Luke, I've sent back your order

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

gaucho · 2014-01-20 19:55:11

I also sent to hell my girlfriend.

gaucho · 2014-01-20 20:00:57

I also wrote to manufacturer.

gaucho · 2014-01-20 20:10:42

the anger also comes to the fact that the shipment also passed the customs with success. with a new shipment all can happen.
next week i will be in a ski resort for one week... without my pm3...
many reasons to be nervous. i suppose you're nervous like me, cause it's long time that we wait.

gaucho · 2014-01-20 21:28:19

tomorrow morning i will try again to intercept the shipment. i found some telephone numbers of the international sorting center.

Enio · 2014-01-21 00:37:26

Aww thats bad news.. How the hell would you not triplecheck the address when sending something around the globe, aaarghh.

Hope you get something goin on that sorting center line!

vivat · 2014-01-21 04:41:54

Gaucho
Call your freephone number 803.160 (from Monday to Saturday, 8 a.m. – 8 p.m.) and ask what to do if the parcel have been shipped to wrong address. From cellphone you can call 199.100.160 number(not free).
http://www.poste.it/en/postali/parcels/ … post.shtml
Maybe you will need some document that proves the fact that sky-macao have shipped to wrong address(i.e. filled wrong address by hand). Ask sky-macau to scan it and send it to you by email.

BTW you have payed them on october. How did you opened the paypal dispute/claim, if you have only 42 day since you pay?

gaucho · 2014-01-21 11:33:56

incredible but true.
summary of the story:
Friday it was @ 5km from my home (same city).
they wrote "wrong postal code" cause one digit was wrong.
they sent back to china on monday.
i called the number suggested by vivat on monday but they are not able to do anything.
You should consider that they are not enabled to see the sender and the destination address!!!
the claim can be done, but it needs 40days to be processed.
yesterday i found some phone numbers of the international shipment center, in order to try to call them just before the shipment leave my country.
today i called all these numbers without success.
i found that public users can't call the office that sends back the shipments to china, so the number is not public.
then i do a kind of "social reverse engineering": i found how the telephone numbers are structured, by comparing some of the found numbers.
By this way i composed another telephone number, and a lady told me that i called the wrong office and given to me 2 numbers where to try.
On one of these numbers i had no answer, the other one answered to the phone.
The person at the phone told me that i called the wrong office and he told me that i can't reach the correct office cause it's not for public.
Then i prayed him to help me.
he said: give me your phone number and you will be called by the correct office.
after a while he called me again and asked me the shipment number, telling me that the operator of that office won't call me.
Then he went to search for my package, even if it wasn't its work.
He found my package and he found that the postal code was wrong, i told him the correct postal code and he told me, one hour ago, that he will resend the shipment to me.

This country deserves the bankruptcy.

p.s.:i leave for the ski resort on 24 Genuary and i will be back on 31 Genuary. I hope to send you everything before to leave, but can't guarantee it.

p.s.:Vivat, the claim was opened to the post office, not to paypal.

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Enio · 2014-01-21 12:10:35

You are a boss gaucho! Nice one, i'm impressed. Very good news!

ikarus · 2014-01-21 12:17:12

Wow! This is really great!
And it's a pretty good story too!
"Kids, have I ever told you the story of how Daddy got his proxmark3? ..."

Thanks so much for all the effort!

Last edited by ikarus (2014-01-21 12:18:19)

vivat · 2014-01-21 16:01:14

Cool story, bro
Can you make some high-res photos of the board? Both sides.

gaucho · 2014-01-21 17:26:13

Yes i can.
i have old coolpix camera with macro function, but i don't have batteries
I will ask to a friend, He has a professional Canon.

holiman · 2014-01-21 22:02:31

Good work gaucho!

vivat · 2014-01-23 14:16:11

News?

gaucho · 2014-01-24 16:49:41

I checked now (you could also check by yourself online on the dovequando website).
It is still in the international shipment center.
#####!"££$%$/@#@@@@@#####
i will leave for the ski resort with only my good stronglink SL500. sob!

vivat · 2014-01-27 16:41:41

Latest tracking info:
22.01.2014 00:00
WTF is happening? They want to export our parcel back to Macau???

Last edited by vivat (2014-02-08 12:58:59)

gaucho · 2014-01-27 17:24:52

that is not the last update. check it now.
they tried to deliver it today but now i'm on the ski resort.
i will try to call the post office and ask if could they deliver it to my neighbor.

gaucho · 2014-01-27 18:37:52

it can stay on that post office for 30 days.
i will take it when i'll come back.

gaucho · 2014-01-28 07:55:46

another update: this morning i can read that it has been delivered to my local area post office.
i will call them this afternoon.

vivat · 2014-01-28 15:20:45

It says:
In lavorazione presso il centro postale di in data 28-GEN-2014
But you are from A., right?

Last edited by vivat (2014-02-08 12:59:25)

gaucho · 2014-01-30 11:07:38

@vivat: no, you wrong.

@everybody: update: the pm3 accessories arrived to my country customs and they called me asking me the value of the items and a description of the content. i have to write by email these information, then they will ship to my home by SDA.

gaucho · 2014-01-30 18:26:00

update: the custom sent to me a email with a module asking me the paypal invoice of the "accessories" (tags etc.).
i sent them back the signed module and the paypal receipt. i paid the agent in trances, then the customs fees will be low. don't ask more datails, i will inform you when the courier will arrive with the parcel.

Last edited by gaucho (2014-01-30 18:27:11)

gaucho · 2014-02-03 23:25:08

update: this afternoon (late) i took the boards. no custom fee for the boards.
i started flashing the FW, but now it's late, i will finish to flash the boards tomorrow evening.
tomorrow i will also try to make a high res. picture with the help of a friend.

Neuer_User · 2014-02-04 10:01:24

gaucho wrote:

update: this afternoon (late) i took the boards. no custom fee for the boards.
i started flashing the FW, but now it's late, i will finish to flash the boards tomorrow evening.
tomorrow i will also try to make a high res. picture with the help of a friend.

Great, thanks!

gaucho · 2014-02-05 21:05:35

i apologize for the delay in the image posting.
there is a problem in the voltage obtained from hw tune command: the voltage is low
if you have any hint about the board testing fee free to suggest. it is new for me.
Are there any commands able to check the single parts of the board? in example commands to check digital part, analog part, supply part.
tomorrow I'll try to do some measurements with the oscilloscope, but if you have any hints about a good measure to perform, expected signals,levels or similar, feel free to suggest it.

upper images are taken with canon with good lens. we couldn't do it better.

Last edited by gaucho (2014-02-05 21:13:44)

vivat · 2014-02-06 05:27:16

http://www.proxmark.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=232#p232
Plus to the link above launch command
hw tune
with and without card on your HF and LF antennas and post here result.

Last edited by vivat (2014-02-06 05:28:18)

gaucho · 2014-02-06 20:23:36

thank you Vivat, can you read my email wrote some days ago asking you to edit one of your posts?
i made some tests today, tomorrow I will continue.
Please read this post and add your hints here, if you have any: http://www.proxmark.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=9543#p9543
p.s.: actually i don't have LF antenna. To compare the result of the tests i'm using a working pm3 of my friend, he has only a HF antenna, but i will manufacture a lf antenna ASAP.

benoit37000 · 2014-02-06 23:02:40

I gaucho
thanks for the pictures
as i have been making home-made coil for different 125Khz RFID project , i have noticed that the resonating frequency is very sensitive ( a few Picofarad drift make difference )
so may be the capacitors in this PCB make the antena device ( in fact coil + capacitor ) not resonating .
here is the picture of my chinese Proxmark as you see some antenna capacitors are not all presents. ( depend on the coil ..)

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