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#1 2018-01-27 17:17:34

loki
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Registered: 2018-01-27
Posts: 5

New Proxmark3 antenna unusable error

Just bought a Proxmark from Elechouse - all the components seem to be in place and I've double checked HF/LF is wired correctly.

I've tried various bootloader/fw combinations, including under Windows & Kali, but a hw tune always results in "your antenna is unusable". Have tried the precompiled windows package (http://www.proxmark.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3975) building my own windows clients (https://github.com/Gator96100/ProxSpace) and git cloning the current repo and make clean && make all into Kali.

Further, running a "lf search" results in a crash of proxmarke.exe or seg fault of ./proxmark3

I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, so if anyone can give me a pointer, that would be most appreciated!

# ./proxmark3 /dev/ttyACM0
Prox/RFID mark3 RFID instrument          
bootrom: master/v3.0.1-297-g365627e-suspect 2018-01-27 13:17:20
os: master/v3.0.1-297-g365627e-suspect 2018-01-27 13:17:33
LF FPGA image built for 2s30vq100 on 2015/03/06 at 07:38:04
HF FPGA image built for 2s30vq100 on 2017/10/27 at 08:30:59
          
uC: AT91SAM7S512 Rev B          
Embedded Processor: ARM7TDMI          
Nonvolatile Program Memory Size: 512K bytes. Used: 196803 bytes (38%). Free: 327485 bytes (62%).          
Second Nonvolatile Program Memory Size: None          
Internal SRAM Size: 64K bytes          
Architecture Identifier: AT91SAM7Sxx Series          
Nonvolatile Program Memory Type: Embedded Flash Memory          
proxmark3> hw tune

Measuring antenna characteristics, please wait........          
# LF antenna:  0.00 V @   125.00 kHz          
# LF antenna:  0.00 V @   134.00 kHz          
# LF optimal:  0.00 V @ 12000.00 kHz          
# HF antenna:  0.00 V @    13.56 MHz          
# Your LF antenna is unusable.          
# Your HF antenna is unusable.       

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#2 2018-01-27 17:44:08

iceman
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Registered: 2013-04-25
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Re: New Proxmark3 antenna unusable error

the simple questions first,
1.  have you connected the right antennas to the right connector?
2. were there any errors/warnings when compiling the firmware?

3. only use same client and firmware from the same compilation.  DON'T mix between branches, forks, versions.

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#3 2018-01-27 17:51:29

loki
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Registered: 2018-01-27
Posts: 5

Re: New Proxmark3 antenna unusable error

Yes, the antennae are the right way round.

No, no warnings during compilation.

I've deployed the bootloader and firmware that came with that particular version of client (so, for example, git cloning and using the firmware and proxmark3 client that came with that).

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#4 2018-01-27 18:17:49

unknownpwn
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Registered: 2018-01-27
Posts: 3

Re: New Proxmark3 antenna unusable error

I'm on a Windows 10 box, just tried it with the latest clone from official github....

pm3 ~$ ./client/proxmark3.exe com6
Prox/RFID mark3 RFID instrument
bootrom: master/v3.0.1-297-g365627e-dirty-suspect 2018-01-27 15:35:36
os: master/v3.0.1-297-g365627e-dirty-suspect 2018-01-27 15:36:22
LF FPGA image built for 2s30vq100 on 2015/03/06 at 07:38:04
HF FPGA image built for 2s30vq100 on 2017/10/27 at 08:30:59

uC: AT91SAM7S512 Rev B
Embedded Processor: ARM7TDMI
Nonvolatile Program Memory Size: 512K bytes. Used: 199376 bytes (38%). Free: 324912 bytes (62%).
Second Nonvolatile Program Memory Size: None
Internal SRAM Size: 64K bytes
Architecture Identifier: AT91SAM7Sxx Series
Nonvolatile Program Memory Type: Embedded Flash Memory
proxmark3> hw tune

Measuring antenna characteristics, please wait.........
# LF antenna: 37.81 V @   125.00 kHz
# LF antenna: 33.41 V @   134.00 kHz
# LF optimal: 47.16 V @   129.03 kHz
# HF antenna: 32.15 V @    13.56 MHz
Displaying LF tuning graph. Divisor 89 is 134khz, 95 is 125khz.

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#5 2018-01-27 18:33:32

loki
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Registered: 2018-01-27
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Re: New Proxmark3 antenna unusable error

Hmm, any ideas on how to start diagnosing a hardware issue so I can go back to Elechouse?

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#6 2018-02-08 09:56:18

BladeRF
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From: Berlin
Registered: 2018-01-21
Posts: 13

Re: New Proxmark3 antenna unusable error

Hi Loki

I have the same Problem.
On the Desktop PC VMWare (KaliLinux 2016.2) it works, but on the Notebook with all the same didn`t work.
I don´t know why.
Iceman say`s that problem is, That I use the false Client ,for my firmware.
I don`t know what he mean, but I make this with manual

https://github.com/Proxmark/proxmark3/wiki/Kali-Linux

after This

dmesg | grep -i usb

I have a Problem I think, because the output from the Driver is not Correct, I think.

Do you have the same?

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#7 2018-02-08 10:08:01

loki
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Registered: 2018-01-27
Posts: 5

Re: New Proxmark3 antenna unusable error

No, everything was seen correctly.

I eventually arranged a swap of the board and the new one works fine.

It does seem important to use a consistent bootloader/firmware/client build.

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#8 2018-02-08 10:27:38

BladeRF
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From: Berlin
Registered: 2018-01-21
Posts: 13

Re: New Proxmark3 antenna unusable error

Do you get a new Proxmark?

what do you want to say, is my PM maybee defekt?

consistent bootloader/firmware/client build   

  I take it from the original Page

https://github.com/Proxmark/proxmark3/wiki/Kali-Linux

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#9 2018-02-08 17:12:35

piwi
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Registered: 2013-06-04
Posts: 704

Re: New Proxmark3 antenna unusable error

BladeRF wrote:

after This

dmesg | grep -i usb

I have a Problem I think, because the output from the Driver is not Correct, I think.

Why don't you show us the output of the command and what you have done next?

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#10 2018-02-08 18:58:57

BladeRF
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From: Berlin
Registered: 2018-01-21
Posts: 13

Re: New Proxmark3 antenna unusable error

sorry

here is the output

oot@kali:~/proxmark3# cd client
root@kali:~/proxmark3/client# ./proxmark3 /dev/ttyACM0
ERROR: invalid serial port
proxmark3> exit
root@kali:~/proxmark3/client# dmesg | grep -i usb
[    1.439301] ACPI: bus type USB registered
[    1.439332] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs
[    1.439338] usbcore: registered new interface driver hub
[    1.439425] usbcore: registered new device driver usb
[    1.440085] ehci_hcd: USB 2.0 'Enhanced' Host Controller (EHCI) Driver
[    1.440826] uhci_hcd: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver
[    1.441061] ehci-pci 0000:02:03.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
[    1.450451] ehci-pci 0000:02:03.0: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00
[    1.450451] usb usb1: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0002
[    1.450451] usb usb1: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
[    1.450451] usb usb1: Product: EHCI Host Controller
[    1.450451] usb usb1: Manufacturer: Linux 4.6.0-kali1-686-pae ehci_hcd
[    1.450451] usb usb1: SerialNumber: 0000:02:03.0
[    1.451136] hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
[    1.451446] xhci_hcd 0000:03:00.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
[    1.451516] uhci_hcd 0000:02:00.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
[    1.451959] usb usb3: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001
[    1.451961] usb usb3: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
[    1.451963] usb usb3: Product: UHCI Host Controller
[    1.451964] usb usb3: Manufacturer: Linux 4.6.0-kali1-686-pae uhci_hcd
[    1.451966] usb usb3: SerialNumber: 0000:02:00.0
[    1.452344] hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found
[    1.452917] usb usb2: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0002
[    1.452919] usb usb2: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
[    1.452921] usb usb2: Product: xHCI Host Controller
[    1.452922] usb usb2: Manufacturer: Linux 4.6.0-kali1-686-pae xhci-hcd
[    1.452924] usb usb2: SerialNumber: 0000:03:00.0
[    1.453048] hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found
[    1.455743] xhci_hcd 0000:03:00.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4
[    1.456231] usb usb4: We don't know the algorithms for LPM for this host, disabling LPM.
[    1.456254] usb usb4: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0003
[    1.456256] usb usb4: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
[    1.456262] usb usb4: Product: xHCI Host Controller
[    1.456275] usb usb4: Manufacturer: Linux 4.6.0-kali1-686-pae xhci-hcd
[    1.456276] usb usb4: SerialNumber: 0000:03:00.0
[    1.456905] hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found
[    1.762557] usb 3-2: new full-speed USB device number 2 using uhci_hcd
[    1.766591] usb 2-1: new full-speed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd
[    1.892389] usb 3-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0e0f, idProduct=0002
[    1.892399] usb 3-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1, SerialNumber=0
[    1.892405] usb 3-2: Product: VMware Virtual USB Hub
[    1.895376] hub 3-2:1.0: USB hub found
[    1.899009] usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0e0f, idProduct=0002
[    1.899020] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1, SerialNumber=0
[    1.899027] usb 2-1: Product: VMware Virtual USB Hub
[    1.899712] hub 2-1:1.0: USB hub found
[    2.018451] usb 2-2: new high-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
[    2.146691] usb 2-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0e0f, idProduct=0002
[    2.146698] usb 2-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1, SerialNumber=0
[    2.146702] usb 2-2: Product: VMware Virtual USB Hub
[    2.147331] hub 2-2:1.0: USB hub found
[    2.222450] usb 2-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd
[    2.314769] usb 2-1.1: New USB device found, idVendor=0e0f, idProduct=0003
[    2.314774] usb 2-1.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[    2.314777] usb 2-1.1: Product: VMware Virtual USB Mouse
[    2.314779] usb 2-1.1: Manufacturer: VMware
[    3.477732] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
[    3.477740] usbhid: USB HID core driver
[    3.481688] input: VMware VMware Virtual USB Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:15.0/0000:03:00.0/usb2/2-1/2-1.1/2-1.1:1.0/0003:0E0F:0003.0001/input/input6
[    3.482015] hid-generic 0003:0E0F:0003.0001: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [VMware VMware Virtual USB Mouse] on usb-0000:03:00.0-1.1/input0
[    3.482435] input: VMware VMware Virtual USB Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:15.0/0000:03:00.0/usb2/2-1/2-1.1/2-1.1:1.1/0003:0E0F:0003.0002/input/input7
[    3.482444] hid-generic 0003:0E0F:0003.0002: input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [VMware VMware Virtual USB Mouse] on usb-0000:03:00.0-1.1/input1
root@kali:~/proxmark3/client# 

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#11 2018-02-08 20:09:45

piwi
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Registered: 2013-06-04
Posts: 704

Re: New Proxmark3 antenna unusable error

Looks like your PM3 is not detected  by the OS.

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#12 2018-02-08 21:17:24

BladeRF
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From: Berlin
Registered: 2018-01-21
Posts: 13

Re: New Proxmark3 antenna unusable error

yes I think so, but why...

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