Desfire uid magic card?

exander · 2015-06-01 15:13:11

I want a few pieces too.

exander · 2015-06-01 21:30:48

Could you give me manufacturer contant, I can start Group Gets or something.

ntk · 2015-06-01 23:42:56

some pieces for me too if it is not too expensive.

app_o1 · 2015-06-03 05:23:57

I asked the seller to setup an Ebay account.
For the regulars who don't wish to wait, I will send them some samples so we can start doing some tests.

I am waiting for a few more information from him.

exander · 2015-06-03 12:06:32

Great info. I can probably take like 10 cards, I want some for me and some for my colleagues. I think if there are enough of us, we can make an interesting demand together.

app_o1 · 2015-06-03 13:33:12

exander wrote:

Great info. I can probably take like 10 cards, I want some for me and some for my colleagues. I think if there are enough of us, we can make an interesting demand together.

No offense exander, but that is only your third post. The samples will go to our regulars first (whom have already sent some stuffs in the past). However, as soon as it is on Ebay, you will be able to buy as much as you need.
May I ask what use you and your colleagues have for those?

exander · 2015-06-03 20:16:36

app_o1 wrote:

exander wrote:
Great info. I can probably take like 10 cards, I want some for me and some for my colleagues. I think if there are enough of us, we can make an interesting demand together.
No offense exander, but that is only your third post. The samples will go to our regulars first (whom have already sent some stuffs in the past). However, as soon as it is on Ebay, you will be able to buy as much as you need.
May I ask what use you and your colleagues have for those?

I thought that this topic was about assessing if there is enough demand and setting up a group order. So I am giving away that there is indeed a demand on my side too. How is my number of posts relevant to the that in any way? I am maybe too enthusiastic, but what? I don't want anything for free, I just want to buy the product (even in development stage) if there is such possibility. If I am first, tenth or thousandth does not really matter, I am just expressing my interest. If it will available on eBay I am find with that. I may have those cards pierced and use them as earnings for example.

app_o1 · 2015-06-04 12:30:05

exander wrote:

app_o1 wrote:
exander wrote:
Great info. I can probably take like 10 cards, I want some for me and some for my colleagues. I think if there are enough of us, we can make an interesting demand together.
No offense exander, but that is only your third post. The samples will go to our regulars first (whom have already sent some stuffs in the past). However, as soon as it is on Ebay, you will be able to buy as much as you need.
May I ask what use you and your colleagues have for those?
I thought that this topic was about assessing if there is enough demand and setting up a group order. So I am giving away that there is indeed a demand on my side too. How is my number of posts relevant to the that in any way? I am maybe too enthusiastic, but what? I don't want anything for free, I just want to buy the product (even in development stage) if there is such possibility. If I am first, tenth or thousandth does not really matter, I am just expressing my interest. If it will available on eBay I am find with that. I may have those cards pierced and use them as earnings for example.

Sorry, I forgot to mention first that there will be no minimum order quantity. Instead I will be getting some samples. Probably not more than 5. If you want it quick, I am happy to send you my sample once I've done what I need to do (which won't take more than a couple of days)

asper · 2015-06-04 13:26:54

Can the seller give us more information about the supported command set ?

exander · 2015-06-04 15:10:19

app_o1 wrote:

Sorry, I forgot to mention first that there will be no minimum order quantity. Instead I will be getting some samples. Probably not more than 5. If you want it quick, I am happy to send you my sample once I've done what I need to do (which won't take more than a couple of days)

No minimal quantity sounds good. Thank you for the offer, I gladly take some when you don't need them. Let me know then, I'll sent you the money for them and for the shipping.

app_o1 · 2015-06-04 16:46:52

asper wrote:

Can the seller give us more information about the supported command set ?

Still waiting for his answer... It is really difficult to have him talk with me. So I am trying to motivating him by showing the potential sales he can make.

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app_o1 · 2015-06-09 09:58:08

Answer from the developer:

"i am sorry i just have the common reader which can only support
20 = Read Block (usage: 0220+1byte block number+2bytes ISO15693-CRC - answer: 4bytes)
21 = Write Block (usage: 0221+1byte block number+4bytes data+2bytes ISO15693-CRC - answer: 4bytes)
22 = Lock Block"

asper · 2015-06-09 15:54:56

It can be good for testing.
I hope that lock bits can always be reverted in those chips!

Anyway If password commands (preferibly supporting various vendors) will be availble in the future i will pay 20-30$ each.

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KernelJay · 2015-07-26 17:35:45

app_o1 wrote:

asper wrote:
Can the seller give us more information about the supported command set ?
Still waiting for his answer... It is really difficult to have him talk with me. So I am trying to motivating him by showing the potential sales he can make.

Count me in as another sale opportunity. Not looking for bulk but I would definitely love to start experimenting with a couple of these as they become available. For now I'll just have to stick to hardware emulation with the pm3 and ChameleonMini.

iceman · 2015-09-24 13:45:09

@app_o1, its been a couple of months now. Whats the status on these tags? Do they exist? If so, do they work? Have you tried them?

iceman · 2015-11-10 16:12:36

I just found this ad on taobao claiming to be a magic 15693 tag...

ref: http://world.taobao.com/item/3959261373 … xoC#detail

asper · 2015-11-11 13:42:16

The important thing is the supported command set... I cannot see it...

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iceman · 2015-11-11 13:45:38

Maybe if we mail the contact person on the ad and ask?

iceman · 2015-11-25 17:18:26

I mailed the person for that ad about magic icode1 tags, asking if there was special command set or normal command set to be able to re-write the tag.

Since language translations seems to be a issue when emailing with him, I got strange answers back but I got some answers at least.

1st mail I got the philips datasheet for icode1. Seller states it follows these commmands.
2nd mail I got answer that it actually uses special commands to be able to re-write uid.
3rd mail when asking for sample of how that command would look like, I get an offer to send him uid of tags I wanted to be cloned. As proof of the magic tag is working.
4th mail, when informing seller its not interesting for me that only seller can re-write uid and I would like to re-write it myself, I get answer to send him uid's and these will be cloned. Seller seems to want 600$ for the commandset to re-write tag.

With the last answer, I can only think that seller is oppertunistic by nature. I'vent answered this latest offer.

The sellers email account is: George Yang <shichengdz@163.com>

I did find some warnings for this person/email on the trade-thread on this forum, so all might not be related to language translations getting fuzzed up.

Last edited by iceman (2015-11-25 17:25:58)

Danz · 2015-11-26 10:10:29

Great work so far .. I want to have desfire UID so bad

asper · 2015-11-26 14:14:03

Icode1 is NOT ISO15693-standard compatible !
I think it will not be the right product for uid-changing purpose.

Mashnelmiz · 2016-05-16 12:52:29

I was wondering what your ideas were on where to perform card magic.
Some places are at a card game with friends. What are some ways you add a card effact into your show?

Пpивeт!

app_o1 · 2016-05-27 14:41:48

java card UID, anyone interested?
dev or price will depend on how many people are willing to pay to get one or more cards.
If you are only interested in getting one or two for test, do you think more people will want to get it for other purpose(s)?
DES uid, no news on that one unfortunately. Looks like a battery packed emulator is still the best solution.

iceman · 2016-05-28 19:31:40

So you got feedback from your contacts. cool.

app_o1 · 2016-06-10 07:14:03

Yes!
But he is still not interested in doing it for small quantities...
MOQ 100 pieces.

iceman · 2016-06-12 18:27:10

Sidenote, @app_o1
I'm trying to get the javacard stuff to work myself. Havn't figured out the enable the mifare mode for the dual interface. Some tips?

Mackwa · 2016-06-13 16:19:16

iceman wrote:

Sidenote, @app_o1
I'm trying to get the javacard stuff to work myself. Havn't figured out the enable the mifare mode for the dual interface. Some tips?

Maybe I can help you.
Do you mean the Pre Personalization Sequences?
I would need the exact Chip Info, e.g. J3A040..., best would be the answer from IDENTIFY command.

iceman · 2016-06-14 20:38:51

Well, I not sure about that part. I'm trying to code a applet for a dual interfaced smartcard. However I seem to not be able of finding good instructions on how to access the rfid interface part from within a javaapplet. There is some samples on how to use the iso7816 protocol but I should be able to access other protocols like the mifare protocol or a low-level protocol to code direct to the rfid interface. That is what I would like to find out.

Then pre presonalization sequences sounds interesting but for which systems? And documentations? In this jcop world I am a newbie.

Mackwa · 2016-06-15 08:29:28

@iceman
sounds very interesting.
maybe we open another thread to discuss this further?

iceman · 2016-06-15 09:18:46

I've started a thread here:
http://www.proxmark.org/forum/viewtopic … 457#p22457

genexis · 2017-04-15 09:41:57

Anybody has any updates with the Desfire UID Magic Card?
i saw that there are multiple sources where i can purchase S50/S70 UID Changeable cards, will those work for Desfire?

I'm in need to find a UID Changeable Desfire card to change the UID for my condo access. I was informed that the current setup doesn't have any encryption setup in it.

Dot.Com · 2017-04-15 10:09:01

genexis wrote:

Anybody has any updates with the Desfire UID Magic Card?
i saw that there are multiple sources where i can purchase S50/S70 UID Changeable cards, will those work for Desfire?
I'm in need to find a UID Changeable Desfire card to change the UID for my condo access. I was informed that the current setup doesn't have any encryption setup in it.

I heard someone was looking for me. Yes. My research team have got some spare desfire alike uid magic card. Where are you based at ? You probably need my inhouse software to change the UID too.

If you could give me your UID, I could help you change the UID before sending them to you.

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